whatever reasons for the objections are irrelevant - archived caches are that and seeking them out should not be encouraged (i.e. with a league table) - it is hard enough getting COs to remove caches when they archive them - let alone ensuring any archived caches (now litter) are eventually removed and not left for future finding. GC has also now enabled any finders to collect in any old containers and dispose of them (or return to CO, though the former is likely to happen in most cases) with no comeback regarding ownership of property