[Cancelled] GC93KBB Challenge Checker Request

5x50 Hiders Challenge
50 caches each placed by 5 different cacher hiders. So 250 caches hidden by five Hiders anywhere in the world.

I have met this challenge.
Xplorer and Ramblin' Rose
156paris
1purplemonkeydishwasher1
Abeja2
Anjea202
AWOL
Etc.

Unfortunately this is not allowed according to the current guidelines. Please read section 10. Source of Criteria at this link: https://www.geocaching.com/help/index.php?pg=kb.chapter&id=127&pgid=206#criteria

Not Acceptable

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These cache page elements: cache titles, cache owner, GC Codes, publishing Reviewer, or cache page text.

GC2F6M8 - Hiders Challenge Cache (United States)

How does itdiffer?

At this time, challenge caches published prior to April 21, 2015 are grandfathered into the game.

I only included the names to you to prove I have met the challenge it is not on my cache page. Sorry my first checker request

Your challenge is still not as allowed in the challenge guidelines

Interesting. Are there specific reasons why geocaching and project-gc refuse to recognize Hiders in this way? Please direct me to the discussion of so.

1Queenand4Jokers Wrote:
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> Interesting. Are there specific reasons why
> geocaching and project-gc refuse to recognize
> Hiders in this way? Please direct me to the
> discussion of so.

It is unfair to say that Project-GC "refuses to recognize hiders", the people writing and tagging checkers are volunteers that do this in their spare time and they only follow the guidelines set by Geocaching HQ. These types of challenges are clearly against the guidelines so why should a volunteer spend their time on making a checker just because you hope the reviewer will miss that it is not allowed and you might get a couple of logs on it before the cache is brought to the attention of HQ and archived? Does this seem like a reasonable way to spend volunteer-time? Or should it maybe be focused on challenges that follow the guidelines? :)

The guidelines changed back in 2015/2016, I don't think there is any active discussion about this part of the guidelines anywhere but you could start your own topic in the official forums, here: https://forums.geocaching.com/GC/index.php?/forum/6-geocaching-topics/ or read the old feedback-thread from the moratorium-days and hope to get som insight: https://forums.geocaching.com/GC/index.php?/topic/331491-challenge-caches/ If you don't know about the moratorium of 2015/2016 you can read the article about it in Project-GC's wiki: https://project-gc.com/w/Challenge_moratorium

Thank you. I will read about the moratorium. I was not trying to be disrespectful to volunteers. I tried to create a challenge cache before they existed based on Hiders and saw this one in the challenges so thought I had missed an update. They are still relatively new in Manitoba.

It takes some extra time and effort to create a challenge cache, there are many things to consider in the challenge cache guidelines. I'm sure you can make a great challenge even if this one was not allowed, just take some time and do the research, double-check anything that is unclear in https://www.geocaching.com/help/index.php?pg=kb.chapter&id=127&pgid=206 here in the forums and/or with your reviewer and you'll get the next one published. :)

If there are very few challenges in your area and the area your reviewer covers they might be a bit "rusty" on the challenge guidelines so if you have big plans you might want to involve them early in the process. Giving them a headstart to check out your challenge and read up on the guidelines will probably result in a smoother reviewprocess for everybody. :)